In this episode of the Proof of Life podcast, Katie and Berin talk about understanding your own motivations, and placing needs and wants into context. Katie explains the connection between her art and her academic pursuits. Berin discusses contextualizing this podcast between being an American who loves Finland, and being a resident of Finland explaining US culture to non-Americans.

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  • Pertti Ankkuri
  • Petri Nurmi
  • Gary Weller

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